We are currently working with the longshoremen. We're actually putting together a deal with them right now. I mean, to say we haven't wanted to use them in the past.... We have found it more competitive to send pulp from Terrace Bay up to Three Rivers, where they had a 50% rate reduction on handling pulp and items like that, versus the Port of Thunder Bay. We're talking throughput rates, stevedoring rates, wharfage rates, and everything that is included. It was more competitive for us to ship it all the way to Three Rivers and have a boat pick it up there than to do it in our port here.
We're currently in negotiations with the stevedoring companies in Thunder Bay as well as with the Thunder Bay Port Authority to see if they can get us close to those rates. We'll actually supply assets, whether that be forklifts or anything like that, to help in that process. We'll put our own employees there to do some unitizing so we can actually look at having ships bring backhauls into Thunder Bay as well as export our pulp and lumber out of the port.