I would almost like to give Mr. Allen some of my time, but I'm sure that wouldn't placate the other side. I don't want to cause him any problems.
Thank you very much. It's all been very helpful.
In particular, I'm sure the committee has been impressed with the transformation that takes place in terms of the commercialization of research into the development of new products, and then the associated skill set. When you talk about nearly 2,000 installers, the workshops with respect to residential and commercial designers, and all of that infrastructure, that's how it seems to me. I'm sure the committee has taken the story line with respect to industrial transformation, global competitiveness, and so on.
I was going to follow up on Mr. Tanguay's point with respect to Mr. Weis saying that pilot projects weren't required, but I wonder if I could sort of characterize, from an urban perspective, what I believe is the necessity for pilot projects with respect to integrated energy systems. I'm sure there are urban examples with respect to the use of biomass in urban parts in Quebec.
I'm not focusing on any single technology, but on the opportunity in terms of brownfield redevelopment across the country with respect to contributing to transit systems in terms of their self-sufficiency in taking them off the traditional energy grid, where they are localized and somewhat self-supportive, and integrating that into community development. The only example I can think of, Mr. Chair, that we have seen with respect to that scale has been the Dockside Green approach that's been taken in Victoria.
All of these small examples are extremely important. When you talk about farm and residential adaptations and the implications, all of that is extremely important. What could we do, as a committee, to put forward a menu of support systems that would encourage the kind of integrated urban application where you would have hundred-acre sites being transformed, sites that are part of large communities within cities, for example, in Toronto?
What is it that we could do, other than pilot projects, that would inspire the application across the country from all levels of government and from the development industry in regard to the capital formulation and the kinds of programs that have been suggested? As a committee, what could we do that would start to drive that kind of agenda?