I think you've mentioned that there are some unique families there. I was able to sit next to one of the foundational chiefs in my last visit there. There are nine chiefs and nine communities that have put it together. They have a pretty discrete and pronounced business approach and thought process.
How that can be translatable across into other jurisdictions, that's where you have to rely on organizations such as the National Aboriginal Forestry Association to take that message laterally into other jurisdictions. They're very busy running their shop. They are a full-on, business-oriented set of communities that are doing some really wonderful things.
When you look at tribal councils, they do some bumping of shoulders and transferring of ideas, but it's also competitive within the region and in the provinces writ large. That's where organizations, in between the technical organizations, fill in with that role. That's where we see NAFA continuing to play a stronger role. In the past we've been a little more policy oriented, but that's where we are hearing the message from our membership, asking how they do it over there. It's not just coming from people who are wanting to know how it's done, whether you're in government, industry, or society. It's also first nations themselves that are looking over and asking how to do this. That's where we hope to play a role.