The first thing I'd tell them is that they probably don't know very much about a pipeline. Some of the problems we had in Michigan and some other places were because of 45-, 50-year-old pipelines. We're getting the absolute best pipe in the world now, the best welding procedures, the best detection systems. These things are going to be “safetied” like you wouldn't believe, and so they should be. If you put a brand new pipeline in the ground right now, you won't have any problem with it. There's going to be a time when there's going to be a problem with it. Time wears out things.
On May 21st, 2013. See this statement in context.