Maybe I can go back.
I think that was Dr. Papangelakis. The point he was making was that historically, in Canada, we have had a number of major Canadian mining companies that were very patriotic in their support for research and development efforts—the Incos, the Falconbridges of the world. What we have seen in the transition to foreign ownership is a noticeable decline in their willingness to contribute to locally funded research efforts.