We work in partnership with the community colleges and the technical institutes across Canada. We sort of take turns offering the curriculum. Sometimes they don't offer third-year welding and so we would deliver that curriculum at that time, or if industry is really demanding it, we will deliver it. I like your example from Breton where they're talking to high school students. I spoke to a group of students not that long ago here in Ottawa from the Ottawa tech school. It has gone from enrolment of, I think it was 3,000, down to under 500, over the course of its evolution. So the training institutes and the colleges are important, but we need to get to the kids before that. We need to do what your folks in your riding are doing, talk to the high school students.
In Oakville where I grew up, there wasn't even shop class in my high school. So provincial governments need to understand—and I would argue particularly Ontario, being the country's largest province in terms of population—and need to refocus on looking at technical training at the high school level and streaming people to move them through.
Next week, Minister Kenney is going—I hope I'm not releasing secrets—to Germany and the U.K. to start to study some of the apprenticeship systems overseas, and we've been invited to go along, to look at what they're doing in Germany and to look to bring that model back to Canada.
So we need to talk to them earlier and we need to talk to them more often.