Sure.
There is a credentialling issue across Canada in construction generally. As you said, we have the Red Seal program. It works. You write your provincial ticket. You have your Ontario ticket. You can challenge the Red Seal, and then you can take that Red Seal and go anywhere in Canada and work.
We promote more trades being put into the Red Seal program to encourage better labour mobility. To answer your question, the workforce in construction is not a “sit at home and wait for the work” workforce. If a member can't get a job where he is in Moncton, he or she has access to our organization across Canada where there might be an opportunity somewhere else. Getting there is a separate issue. Usually it's up to the individual to travel to where that work is. That's a barrier to mobility in our view. We're trying to work on that. Generally, our folks aren't “stay at home” folks. They get on a plane and go to work or they get in the truck or the car and they drive from Hamilton up to the Bruce nuclear facility and they go do their work.
With regard to credentialling, we're ahead of other industries in construction. We've had the Red Seal for 50 years. We're not fighting about credentialling generally. We're actually doing an experience review right now with HRSDC on the Agreement on Internal Trade, specifically on the labour mobility file. We haven't had one issue or one problem with that agreement or with the chapter 7 issues. Those are beyond the scope of this committee.
I would say we are the most mobile workforce there is. The one challenge we do have is the financial constraints of the person who's on employment insurance in New Brunswick who can't afford a plane ticket to get to where the work is if their employer isn't paying for it or if Peter's members, Suncor or the other big companies, aren't paying for that plane ticket.
Financial barriers aside, the workforce is completely mobile always for temporary jobs, and their families always stay home.