In the case of the NCC plant, which is a joint venture of Domtar and FPInnovations, we are the only one in the world capable of producing a tonne of NCC a day.
Yesterday there was an announcement of SDTC investing $4 million into the new product. The new product is going to be used in the oil and gas industry by an international company, Schlumberger. It will have an impact on drilling mud. It will increase the recovery of oil and gas by a factor, which I cannot share, but a major factor. So it means that for the oil and gas industry it will be a major step toward larger recovery methods and obviously environmentally better methodology.
In the case of the NCC, there's a replacement of polymer in the trucking industry—