Evidence of meeting #115 for Natural Resources in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was buildings.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Matt Jones  Assistant Deputy Minister, Pan-Canadian Framework Implementation Office, Department of the Environment
Helen Ryan  Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Environmental Protection Branch, Department of the Environment
Cynthia Handler  Director, Office of Energy Research and Development, Energy End-Use, Department of Natural Resources
Judy Meltzer  Director General, Carbon Pricing Bureau, Department of the Environment
Kent Hehr  Calgary Centre, Lib.
Michel Dumoulin  Vice-President, Engineering, National Research Council of Canada
Trevor Nightingale  Principal Research Officer, Construction Research Centre, National Research Council of Canada

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Vice-President, Engineering, National Research Council of Canada

Michel Dumoulin

I will try to answer in a general way. Mr. Nightingale may have specific examples to give you later.

In the area of commercialization, our role is to support companies that are active and want to do commercialization, such as the industrial research assistance program, IRAP, which I mentioned earlier. So we'll support them financially, but we'll also network and direct them to the appropriate resources. We will support them by scaling up, which is very important. You mentioned the valley of death. You have to move from something that works in the laboratory 80% of the time in small quantities to something that will be sold and bought. This is a critical step, and it is in this sense that the IRAP program will be useful. For our part, we will be doing demonstrations.

It is essential for us to have key players around the table throughout the value chain, so that small businesses understand the challenges of large companies and it is possible to establish connections. In our opinion, our role is very much about making connections between large and small so that everything goes faster.

The first component of NRC's formal mandate is to develop new knowledge. The ones we develop using our budgets, the government's budget, take the form of publications, but also patents. We have several thousand patents that we are trying to commercialize by making them available to Canadian companies.

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Liberal

Marc Serré Liberal Nickel Belt, ON

Mr. Nightingale, do you want to add anything?

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Principal Research Officer, Construction Research Centre, National Research Council of Canada

Trevor Nightingale

Yes, I'll give you an example.

In a recent study that we did for Siemens Canada and New Brunswick Power, we looked at the effectiveness of specific smart thermostats that could be controlled by the Internet on the ability for the utility to shift heating loads in the wintertime.

We used this as an opportunity to identify Canadian SMEs that could respond to that opportunity. As a result, two Quebec smart thermostat companies stepped into that arena and are now developing the unique product that is now sold in North America.

That is an example of one of many projects where we work with the industry and we try to find hooks where there are technology gaps. We try to connect those gaps to capable Canadian companies. That's another way that we help out.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

I'm going to have to stop you there. That's all the time we have for today.

Gentlemen, thank you very much. We appreciate your inputs, and your evidence will be very helpful.

We'll see everybody on Thursday.

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Conservative

Shannon Stubbs Conservative Lakeland, AB

Mr. Chair, before you hit the gavel, I just wanted to ask whether you've invited the minister to come to committee for supplementary estimates.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal James Maloney

I don't know the answer to that. I'll get back to you.

The meeting is adjourned.