Thank you for that question. I think that's really important. We really frequently are moving into domestic-only conversations around energy, and we're clearly in a North American context. It's been so wonderful to see the renewed interest in trilateral collaboration around energy. You'd have to go back to probably the George Bush administration in the early 2000s, with the North American energy working group, to see this level of collaboration between the governments.
I think what's essential, though, in those discussions is to try to avoid the tendency to compete, which often comes about as a result of thinking about energy in trade terms only. Energy is about more than just trade in North America. It contributes to quality of life, to standards of living, to a reliability of the electricity system. A lot of the ties between Canada and the U.S., for example, are not so much about trade as they are about electricity reliability. We're all better off when we're working together on these issues. I think there's a lot of opportunity there in all the areas you mentioned.
One of the things I noted at the meeting was a really tremendous focus on clean tech and electricity, which is important. I saw less discussion, although maybe it was happening in other forums, around hydrocarbons, and that, I think, is really important for us to also look at collectively in North America. How can we collectively be developing those resource bases, which are large, in an environmentally responsible fashion that benefits all three countries?