I don't think you're the only group that sees this as unclear. It isn't clear how that circle will be squared or the square will be circled. That said, there are some important processes under way at the first ministers' level. That's an important development, to see that change in terms of the provinces and the federal government coming together on climate, coming together on energy, and on the development of a Canadian energy strategy.
We've done some public opinion polling work in connection with the positive energy project. One of the things that won't surprise people who know oil and gas well is that a majority of Canadians support the development of oil and gas. They also want to see environmental protection, but they're confident that governments collectively can move in the direction of energy development while at the same time protecting the environment.
What they haven't seen, though, is a plan. What is it going to look like? There's a desire on the part of Canadians to transition to a cleaner energy future. I presume that's also part of what the committee is interested in. We haven't seen a plan for what that transition will look like, what the time frame will be, or the ways in which governments and others will work together to achieve it. Many people, including me, are looking to that first ministers' process to try to get a much better understanding of, concretely, how the governments are going to work together on this.
There's a really interesting window of opportunity here in respect of decision tracks. You have the first ministers' meetings dealing with climate. You have in the Council of the Federation the development of a Canadian energy strategy. You also have the energy and mines ministers who are going to be meeting over the course of the summer. The focus of their proceedings will be on public confidence. There's an opportunity there to show a coordinated approach to some of these key issues. I hope governments will take it.