There are different ways. In B.C., most of the incentives we have are utility-based, so ultimately it's the ratepayers who pay for those incentives, the argument being similar to the one the gentlemen joining us made, that it's often cheaper to buy energy efficiency through incentives than it is to put up a new power plant, or, as in our case in B.C., a new dam.
It makes sense from that point of view. I think the economics overall can make a lot of sense.
In terms of government incentives, if, as a society, we've decided there is value in reducing carbon emissions, then there's a cost that comes with that. If there's an intrinsic value in reducing those emissions, then I think some level of government support is appropriate.
Certainly, other industries benefit from support, in terms of tax incentives, investment tax credits, and things like that. I don't see any reason that the energy efficiency industry should be any different, given the tremendous local benefits to the Canadian economy.