You talked a lot about energy poverty, which I found very interesting. We had a program for homeowners in Canada, the eco-energy retrofit homes program, that was just that. You had the audit. You invested your money. You got your rebate. It was very successful. We've heard testimony earlier in this study from other people who said it would be better to have a tax incentive.
I'm just trying to get an idea and wonder if you have any opinions on whether a tax incentive or a rebate would be better. I'm thinking for people in energy poverty, tax incentives aren't of much value because they're probably not paying much tax. I wonder if you could comment on that choice.