I'll do my best to answer this question, but to be honest, it's my colleague, Jamie Kneen, who covers that file. He's actually in another hearing on this specific topic today. I'll just mention quickly that in our opinion, of course the CEAA was damaged in 2012 by the omnibus bill. At the least, we need to come back to what it was before.
I think there's also a growing understanding, even in industry, that some of those 2012 changes may not have been for the best in the end, in terms of processes of consultation, information, and social licence.
One of the major issues we have seen is that before, we had a clear understanding of which projects were subject to a review process. There were also options for more regular panel reviews, which are more rigorous reviews. Right now, that clarity is being taken away with more discretionary powers on the part of the minister. The criteria are more problematic and blurry. It is at the discretion of the minister which projects will eventually be subject to those more rigorous reviews.
With regard to the Fisheries Act, it's the same thing. Different groups all across Canada have called for a return to what the Fisheries Act was before the 2012 omnibus bill.
I think there may also be room to improve the Fisheries Act. I'll just point to one example in connection with the Mount Polley spill in 2014. The maximum fine that this spill could trigger is $12 million, and the maximum fine ever given under the Fisheries Act in Canada is $7 million. That is not a proper incentive, in our opinion, for the proper enforcement of our laws and protection of our waters. Those fines need to be reviewed to create a more proper incentive for companies to follow.