Typically, from the mass timber side you'd be talking about multi-family homes. Multi-family homes can now be built up to six storeys in British Columbia, and I think Ontario is looking at that as well. I think they may have passed it. They're what we call “stick frames”. That's the typical two-by-sixes with joists and things like that. That's a very cost-effective way to build, and I think that's a particular market that we own already here, and I think there's a huge opportunity to take more of that market share in the U.S.
Once you go past six storeys, you're in the world of mass timber. There are only a handful of buildings that are taller than six storeys built recently in North America out of wood. There's so much that we need to understand. We need to have a market for it. We need to be able to have the testing done for it on the fire side, which you indicated. Acoustics are a huge problem through the walls or as people walk across the floors. Research studies are ongoing and they are being supported, but then we have to take all that information and we have to commercialize it and convince people to start to use it. These are such early days in the growth curve now on the mass timber side for multi-family homes above six storeys. Any help we can get would be excellent.