If I may add on the de-risking, I think you're putting your finger on exactly some of the right issues and where additional funding will be needed. We need to realize that when we look at investment and de-risking, we need to look at the process, and the products, and we need to de-risk the market as well. Very often with those new value-added products or markets, it's to be the first one out there, because they're niche markets. They're value-added, but small markets. It's very important for Canada to be one of the first out there. We need to realize that we're not alone. There's a lot of competition coming from Brazil, Chile—
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