We do go after grants. As a corporation we've shied away from the loans simply because we have a pretty strong balance sheet and we haven't really had to. I've discussed this with our finance group at length. They asked if there was any particular reason that we don't want to take the loans. I said we had to be careful about finance covenants and things like that.
Definitely for an established corporation such as Domtar, which has a strong balance sheet, a grant is more attractive than a loan.