I believe that 100%. I think it's a combination of building, as they did in the U.S. and in Europe and the U.K., a credible entity first of all that has value to people. It has to be credible. It has to have value. It has to deliver products to people. It has to be well managed. All those things need to be done well.
Once people start relying on something like that, as not only Americans but we do here on the EIA, then it becomes difficult to take something away from people that has value. It has business value, policy value, social value. I agree very much with that statement.