Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Mr. Beck and Mr. Orr, first of all, please forgive us for the small waste of time at the beginning. What can I say? It's part of the parliamentary game.
Mr. Orr, I appreciated when you said in your presentation that there needs to be a cultural change in the industry. That's something that a number of the witnesses we've heard from agree on. For too long, we have been satisfied with the production of convenience products, including the famous two-by-four. The federal government will have to develop programs that allow for value-added production. You've made this point.
I'd like to know if you've used any federal programs to help you move in this direction towards value-added production?