I don't call it capitulation. I call it making sure we have a thriving oil and gas industry in this country that continues to lower emissions. It needs a customer; that's the reality.
I'm in the business of dealing with reality, like the reality of climate change and the reality of a marketplace that is able, with the right incentives, to manage it and to meet the marks it needs to meet.
I can tell you that the governments of Alberta and Saskatchewan have come an awfully long way in making sure we meet those market realities, because the market has changed, and it is changing in an accelerated fashion. If we want to continue to draw investment into our energy sector in this country, we have to deal with that.
We do not bury our heads in the sand and yet physically find a way to still beat our chests. That is not how you draw investment into this country. It is dealing with reality, and climate change is a reality.