Yes. I've known this material for 35 years. We have two ways to make graphite. There's natural graphite, and we can also use petroleum coke to make artificial graphite. I believe the federal government must help with this mine or this artificial graphite. Assist them with investments to bring machines here. If we have the machines, we are able to make it at low cost, with the greenest and least CO2 emissions.
I have a lot of experience. For example, when I was at Hydro-Québec, I licensed technology to Nouveau Monde Graphite. With innovations—