I'll quantify a bit what the hydrogen strategy points to, and what some of the analysis that was done for the strategy points to as well.
Right now, grey hydrogen, conventional hydrogen production in Canada, has about 100 grams of CO2 produced per megajoule of hydrogen. If you add carbon abatement to that, meaning carbon capture utilization and storage, the carbon intensity is driven down to 31 grams per megajoule. That's a 60% reduction.
If you go to electrolysis and if your electricity grid is clean and zero-emitting, as 80% of Canada's grid is, then that can be as low as 10 grams per megajoule or even less. That's current carbon intensity. As improvements and efficiency of CCUS grow, that carbon intensity of conventional hydrogen production with CCUS will also be driven down.
The strategy itself points to how the carbon intensity of Canada's overall mix has to be driven down over time. Near term, we're looking at 36.4 grams of CO2 per megajoule. That's a mixture of conventional and low-carbon production.
Over time, as I mentioned before, as we approach net zero, then that carbon intensity needs to be driven down toward zero. We know that electrification is part of that and the amount of renewable energy that is used to produce the hydrogen is part of that. The advancements in CCUS that will be made through investments that are being made in RD&D will also drive down that carbon intensity over time.