Okay. Thank you, Mr. Kurz.
I'm going to move now to ERS.
Mr. Small, thank you very much for your presentation. I really appreciated the detail you gave.
On the 5,000 BTUs versus 12,000 BTUs for other carbon products, I want to hear more about your innovation and what it costs on a user basis to get your product up to the 12,000 BTUs that would normally be part of an earth-produced carbon product.