Natural Resources Committee on Oct. 9th, 2024

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Mr. Singh, just hold for a second.

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

This is interference, Chair.

[An hon. member]

Oh, come on.

[Shannon Stubbs, Conservative, Lakeland, AB]

He said the word “hell”.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

I'm not sure what—

[Ted Falk, Conservative, Provencher, MB]

The Speaker ruled it out of order in the House. It certainly should be out of order in the committee.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

I did not hear what was said. I'm going to ask all members—

[Ted Falk, Conservative, Provencher, MB]

The clerk—

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Mr. Falk, excuse me.

I'm going to ask all members to use parliamentary language throughout our conversations. We'll do our best to make sure that any unparliamentary language that we hear—

[Ted Falk, Conservative, Provencher, MB]

You should withdraw that language.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

We will. We can go back to the record and look to see if anything unparliamentary was said.

[An hon. member]

I can tell you, Mr. Chair—

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

I will turn it back over to you, sir, so you can continue on your questioning.

[Ted Falk, Conservative, Provencher, MB]

Apologize and withdraw it.

[Jagmeet Singh, NDP, Burnaby South, BC]

Can you pause the time for a second?

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Yes, the time is paused. Do you have a...?

Go ahead.

[Jagmeet Singh, NDP, Burnaby South, BC]

I just want to make sure, Mr. Chair, that you're okay with it.

I said, “you sure as hell don't”. If there's a concern about that, then I can change that. I just want to make sure you're....

[Ted Falk, Conservative, Provencher, MB]

That is unparliamentary.

[Jagmeet Singh, NDP, Burnaby South, BC]

These guys over here, the Conservatives, just for the folks watching at home—

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

I'll ask everyone to hold for a second.

[Jagmeet Singh, NDP, Burnaby South, BC]

—want to interrupt because they want to defend these guys with the oil and gas companies.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Mr. Falk and Mr. Singh, hold for a second, please.

I once again remind colleagues that I haven't seen the Speaker's ruling on the language used. We can go look at that.

However, I will ask all colleagues to focus on using parliamentary language that's not offensive towards anyone here at the committee. If we focus on that, I think we can get through today's meeting without any concerns.

Thank you for your point of order.

I'm going to go back to you, sir.

You have about 35 seconds left, I believe. Please, go ahead.

[Jagmeet Singh, NDP, Burnaby South, BC]

Canadians, as I said, are making a lot of sacrifices. You sure as heck are not. CEO pay is up by as much as 75%. However, Cenovus fired 2,000 workers just a couple of years ago, and as many as 50,000 workers could be fired because of your automation plans. You're returning 75% of your cash flow to your shareholders. Your profits don't create jobs. Your profits don't reduce emissions.

Why are you using public money to give millionaires raises and to fire workers?

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Give a very short answer, Mr. McKenzie, as we're at the end of time.

Go ahead. Please, provide a short answer.

[Jon McKenzie]

I believe the numbers that you were talking about were the workers who were laid off as part of the integration work between Husky and Cenovus. That was all part of the public record.

I don't know how to answer your question, Mr. Singh.