Evidence of meeting #111 for Natural Resources in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was wells.

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MPs speaking

Also speaking

Adam Legge  President, Business Council of Alberta
Deborah Yedlin  President and Chief Executive Officer, Calgary Chamber of Commerce
Sean Strickland  Executive Director, Canada's Building Trades Unions
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Thomas Bigelow

The Chair Liberal George Chahal

Ms. Goodridge, we have a point of order.

Ms. Dabrusin, go ahead on the point of order.

Julie Dabrusin Liberal Toronto—Danforth, ON

In my experience, the whole point of such a study would be to get the complete explanation. That is what we do. We bring the motion and we have the witnesses come, and then we get to hear from them. We would get to hear about about what was done by Alberta, but we'd also get to hear from Saskatchewan. We would get to hear from other provinces as the witnesses are proposed.

The Chair Liberal George Chahal

Thank you, Ms. Dabrusin, for your point of order. Those are great points to make during debate, but I want to get everybody to focus on using....

I'll go to you, Mr. Dreeshen, on a point of order, and then I have Mr. Angus on a point of order.

Let's go to you, Mr. Dreeshen.

6:20 p.m.

Conservative

Earl Dreeshen Conservative Red Deer—Mountain View, AB

Thank you.

I'll respond to Ms. Dabrusin's point.

If that is actually the case, then, that she gets rid of the preamble, it still goes into the “clean these wells in Alberta”, and there's talk about “these wells”, which of course relates to the ones that were talked about earlier. If she is saying that she wishes to remove that, then certainly that would help.

The Chair Liberal George Chahal

Mr. Dreeshen, I gave you the leeway to hear your point of order, but once again, that's a point of debate. You are on the list. You're welcome to make all those points during your time for debate.

We'll go back to you, Mr. Angus, on a point of order.

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

This is strictly a point of order. I've already spoken. I have nothing more to add on this. I'm looking forward to getting ahead.

The clock is ticking down. I'm concerned that my colleagues will talk the clock out. At 6:30, are we done this gong show, or...?

The Chair Liberal George Chahal

We are currently scheduled to go until 6:30.

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

Okay. Thank you.

The Chair Liberal George Chahal

Thank you.

Ms. Goodridge, you have the floor again.

6:25 p.m.

Conservative

Laila Goodridge Conservative Fort McMurray—Cold Lake, AB

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

6:25 p.m.

Conservative

Shannon Stubbs Conservative Lakeland, AB

On Monday they wanted to keep going for the debate.

Laila Goodridge Conservative Fort McMurray—Cold Lake, AB

Interesting.

6:25 p.m.

Conservative

Shannon Stubbs Conservative Lakeland, AB

Yes.

6:25 p.m.

Conservative

Laila Goodridge Conservative Fort McMurray—Cold Lake, AB

Well, it is fun to come to a new committee and learn new things.

Ms. Dabrusin is in fact the parliamentary secretary for natural resources. This motion did in fact come from her. That means that if the government didn't draft it and if the ministry of natural resources didn't draft it and she drafted it herself, it's concerning to me that someone who is in the role of parliamentary secretary for natural resources would put forward such a violent attack on my home province—

6:25 p.m.

Conservative

Shannon Stubbs Conservative Lakeland, AB

And needs a study to learn about it.

6:25 p.m.

Conservative

Laila Goodridge Conservative Fort McMurray—Cold Lake, AB

—and then needs a study to learn about something that she should be able to ask for a briefing on from the department and be able to get.

The problem comes back down to the fact that this Liberal government sees Alberta as a cash cow. They see Alberta continually as something to be whipped and then take the profits and run. They talk about emissions caps on a regular basis. They talk about all kinds of different things—

Yvonne Jones Liberal Labrador, NL

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

The Chair Liberal George Chahal

Go ahead, Ms. Jones.

Yvonne Jones Liberal Labrador, NL

I'd like to clarify for the record that this is not the intent of the government, and neither is it the opinion of the government. I want to put that on the record.

I also want to say that if the government did not appreciate and value Alberta, we never would have bought the TMX pipeline—

The Chair Liberal George Chahal

Thank you, Ms.—

6:25 p.m.

Conservative

Shannon Stubbs Conservative Lakeland, AB

It's not a pipeline for Alberta. It's a pipeline of national interest, according to—

Yvonne Jones Liberal Labrador, NL

It's a pipeline for Alberta to get oil and gas to market—

6:25 p.m.

Conservative

Shannon Stubbs Conservative Lakeland, AB

It's not a pipeline for Alberta. It's a pipeline for Canada in the national interest, per your own approval—

Yvonne Jones Liberal Labrador, NL

—and created 35,000 jobs in Alberta.

The Chair Liberal George Chahal

Ms. Jones and everybody else—