Natural Resources Committee on Nov. 4th, 2024

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Ms. Stubbs, I want to answer your point of order, if I could ask you to pause.

Thank you.

Colleagues, once again, ask a question and allow time for an answer, just so that, Mr. Hallan, you have time to ask your question, and the minister has time to provide a fulsome answer to your question.

[Jasraj Singh Hallan, Conservative, Calgary Forest Lawn, AB]

I'll take my time back, Chair. That's fair enough.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

If we can work within those parameters, I think everything can go smoothly.

[Jasraj Singh Hallan, Conservative, Calgary Forest Lawn, AB]

I'll move on because the minister, obviously, with his non-answer, proves that he admits that the jobs will not be recovered—the ones that he's going to lose with this emissions cap. I'll move on.

I think it's important to note that it's my constituents, and Albertans, who are going to be impacted the most with this oil and gas cap. They know how many jobs will be lost. Most of them will be out of work in that field because of you.

Minister Freeland, you preside over one of the worst GDP per capita growth rates since the Great Depression. Can you confirm that you've done an impact assessment of what this oil and gas cap will do to your deficit?

[Chrystia Freeland, Liberal, University—Rosedale, ON]

There were so many untrue statements embedded in what you said, so I'm going to have to go after them one by one.

[Jasraj Singh Hallan, Conservative, Calgary Forest Lawn, AB]

I just want an answer to my question.

Have you done an impact assessment on GDP and GDP per capital growth?

[Chrystia Freeland, Liberal, University—Rosedale, ON]

I actually wasn't given a chance to answer.

[Jasraj Singh Hallan, Conservative, Calgary Forest Lawn, AB]

I just need that answer. I didn't ask for anything else.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Once again, Mr. Hallan, you've asked your question. I want to give the minister an opportunity to answer your question.

Minister Freeland, please go ahead and provide an answer.

[Chrystia Freeland, Liberal, University—Rosedale, ON]

It is absolutely appropriate for me to make clear the falsehoods embedded in your question. It is not okay for me to just drive by those. I'm going to go through them systematically.

[Jasraj Singh Hallan, Conservative, Calgary Forest Lawn, AB]

Just the GDP per capita.... Is it not the worst growth since the Great Depression?

[Chrystia Freeland, Liberal, University—Rosedale, ON]

If that was the only question you wanted to ask, you didn't need to offer all of the false fluff to begin with, so let me go after the fluff.

[Jasraj Singh Hallan, Conservative, Calgary Forest Lawn, AB]

It would be nice for you to answer so that we can move on.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Mr. Hallan and Ms. Freeland, if could you get direct and answer the questions that he has asked, and provide an answer.

The floor is yours.

[Jasraj Singh Hallan, Conservative, Calgary Forest Lawn, AB]

I'll be direct.

Thank you, Chair.

I'll move on.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

No, hold on, Mr. Hallan.

I want to give Minister Freeland the time to answer the question.

Minister Freeland, briefly provide an answer to the question.

[Jasraj Singh Hallan, Conservative, Calgary Forest Lawn, AB]

Briefly, please....

[Chrystia Freeland, Liberal, University—Rosedale, ON]

I simply can't let the falsehood stand.

First of all, you began by saying something untrue about what my colleague Minister Wilkinson said. Minister Wilkinson was very clear that we believe that our policies are both bringing down emissions and bringing good jobs to Canada and to Canadians.

[Jasraj Singh Hallan, Conservative, Calgary Forest Lawn, AB]

That is not true.

Minister, since you're not going to answer—

[Chrystia Freeland, Liberal, University—Rosedale, ON]

We believe we can and must do both.

[Jasraj Singh Hallan, Conservative, Calgary Forest Lawn, AB]

I have about a minute left. I'd like to move on.

[Chrystia Freeland, Liberal, University—Rosedale, ON]

In terms of GDP, since we're here to talk about—

[Jasraj Singh Hallan, Conservative, Calgary Forest Lawn, AB]

Minister, the Canadian dollar is at 72¢—

[Chrystia Freeland, Liberal, University—Rosedale, ON]

You didn't actually allow me to answer.

[Shannon Stubbs, Conservative, Lakeland, AB]

I have a point of order, Chair.