Natural Resources Committee on Nov. 4th, 2024

[Jonathan Wilkinson, Liberal, North Vancouver, BC]

There will be tens of thousands of jobs created as a result of the emissions cap.

[Jasraj Singh Hallan, Conservative, Calgary Forest Lawn, AB]

I just need a number. How many jobs will be created?

[Jonathan Wilkinson, Liberal, North Vancouver, BC]

If you look at the Shell Polaris project, the Strathcona project, the Pathways project, which we all hope will move ahead, and all the jobs that were created through the implementation of methane reduction technologies—

[Jasraj Singh Hallan, Conservative, Calgary Forest Lawn, AB]

What's the number?

[Jonathan Wilkinson, Liberal, North Vancouver, BC]

This is an enormous opportunity that will create tens of thousands of jobs in Alberta.

[Jasraj Singh Hallan, Conservative, Calgary Forest Lawn, AB]

Tens of thousands.... What's the number of that?

[Jonathan Wilkinson, Liberal, North Vancouver, BC]

You see it with Linde and its products. You see it with Dow and its first net-zero petrochemical facility.

[Jasraj Singh Hallan, Conservative, Calgary Forest Lawn, AB]

Minister, what's the number?

[Jonathan Wilkinson, Liberal, North Vancouver, BC]

You see it with the Imperial biofuel facility.

[Jasraj Singh Hallan, Conservative, Calgary Forest Lawn, AB]

Minister, I just need the number.

[Jonathan Wilkinson, Liberal, North Vancouver, BC]

My goodness, go and have a look at what's happening on the ground.

[Jasraj Singh Hallan, Conservative, Calgary Forest Lawn, AB]

I just need a number. If you don't have the number, just say so.

[A voice]

Oh, oh!

[Jonathan Wilkinson, Liberal, North Vancouver, BC]

It's tens of thousands.

[Jasraj Singh Hallan, Conservative, Calgary Forest Lawn, AB]

Okay, so you're saying tens of thousands of jobs will be created. Deloitte has estimated that 110,000 jobs will be lost in Canada due to your job-killing oil and gas cap.

Are you confirming today that the tens of thousands of jobs will be more than the 110,000 jobs that you're going to drive away from Canada, yes or no? I just need a yes or no.

[Jonathan Wilkinson, Liberal, North Vancouver, BC]

The oil and gas cap is intended to incent economic activity and the long-term competitiveness of the oil and gas sector, while doing what we need to do to address the climate issue.

It is very disturbing for me that—

[Jasraj Singh Hallan, Conservative, Calgary Forest Lawn, AB]

I'll take that as a no.

I have a very limited amount of time, so I'll have to go on.

[Jonathan Wilkinson, Liberal, North Vancouver, BC]

—the Conservative party of Canada, increasingly, seems to be a group of climate deniers.

At the end of the day, you have to actually address that issue and address it in a manner that's going to create economic opportunity.

[Jasraj Singh Hallan, Conservative, Calgary Forest Lawn, AB]

Minister, your non-answer—

[Jonathan Wilkinson, Liberal, North Vancouver, BC]

Your questions are ridiculous. At the end of the day—

[Shannon Stubbs, Conservative, Lakeland, AB]

I have a point of order, Chair.

I think we just went through this in previous exchanges.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

We have a point of order.

Ms. Stubbs—

[Shannon Stubbs, Conservative, Lakeland, AB]

The minister is very elevated, cutting off my colleague.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Do you know what? Once again, colleagues—

[Shannon Stubbs, Conservative, Lakeland, AB]

I wouldn't deign to lecture anyone about decorum, but just for your consistency—