Through equity ownership, I see our people not only having labour jobs where they're laid off in the springtime, I see our people being CEOs and on boards of directors, and managers and being able to make decisions in the corporate world. Also, on the ground, I see our people being guardians, land users, hunters, fishers and trappers. We bring that information back to our lands office.
When we get involved in major projects, there's a huge separation between our economic arm and our governance arm, but we still have to do that due diligence in striking the balance between economic prosperity and environmental stewardship. That's why I feel it's very important that indigenous people are involved in the extraction of materials that are happening in their territories, whether that's one nation that wants to be involved or bringing in a collaboration of nations to work together.