Yes, but at the same time, Ms. Collins, I would just emphasize that it could be that production over the next 20 or 30 years goes down, because for humanity we need that to happen, and we're pretty high-cost producers. You wouldn't want to delude people in a region and say, hey, let's just keep increasing production, because then you're just building a house of cards, which is what we partly did over the last couple of decades, so you want to be careful about that.
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