Natural Resources Committee on Oct. 30th, 2023

[Shannon Stubbs, Conservative, Lakeland, AB]

Chair, we just want there to be confidence in you at this committee.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Well, you know what?

[Shannon Stubbs, Conservative, Lakeland, AB]

That's really important to your Albertan constituents too, for sure.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Thank you.

Mr. Patzer had the floor on a point of order, and that's the ruling.

The committee upheld and sustained the ruling of the chair. With that, I see that the committee members have confidence in what we are doing today and the important work on C-50 and C-49, the motion that was brought forward, the amendments and now the subamendment.

I would like to get back to the subamendment and to the individuals who were speaking so that we can continue to debate the subamendment.

[Shannon Stubbs, Conservative, Lakeland, AB]

Chair, just so that we can all have confidence, can you review the speaking list again?

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

I can't acknowledge you unless there's a point of order.

[Shannon Stubbs, Conservative, Lakeland, AB]

On a point of order, could you review the speaking list again for us so we can all be clear? It has evolved throughout the day.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

We are on the subamendment to the amendment.

[Shannon Stubbs, Conservative, Lakeland, AB]

And the speaking list is...?

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Mr. Genuis is up next on the speaking list.

[Shannon Stubbs, Conservative, Lakeland, AB]

Who is after that?

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

No, Mr. Chair, I was.

You said Mr. Simard and then Mr. Angus.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

No, we have Mr. Genuis and then Mr. Angus.

My apologies. It's Mr. Genuis, then—

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

You said Mr. Simard, then Mr. Angus.

[An hon. member]

I have a point of order.

[An hon. member]

I guess you can challenge the chair, Charlie.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

I'm going to ask all members....

We have Mr. Genuis and then Mr. Angus.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Thank you, Chair.

I want to start by moving that the privilege of the member for Peace River—Westlock had been breached when the chair and the committee refused to allow him to speak on Bill C-69. That is a privilege motion, which is now properly before the committee.

I will now speak on that question of privilege, and it will be up to the committee ultimately to determine whether to forward a report on that matter of privilege to the House. That is a privilege motion and I will now speak to it.

We were undertaking a debate on an important matter, which is Bill C-69, an amendment in relation to a programming motion on Bill C-49 and Bill C-50. There was an amendment—

[Mario Simard, Bloc, Jonquière, QC]

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

—and my colleague from Peace River—Westlock was trying to speak, as he is permitted to—

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Hold on a second, Mr. Genuis.

Thank you.

[Mario Simard, Bloc, Jonquière, QC]

As far as I know, we can't raise points of privilege in committee.

Can the clerk tell us whether it's possible to do so? If it isn't, Mr. Genuis' entire argument serves absolutely no purpose.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

We have a point of order by Mr. Simard and a question for the clerk. I'm just going to—

[Francesco Sorbara, Liberal, Vaughan—Woodbridge, ON]

Chair, I have a point of order, please.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Yes. Go ahead on the point of order.