Evidence of meeting #80 for Natural Resources in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was point.
A recording is available from Parliament.
November 1st, 2023 / 6:25 p.m.
Conservative
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal George Chahal
Mr. Williamson, I'm sorry. I did not recognize you on a point of order because I did not hear you call a point of order.
Mr. Genuis, go ahead on the point of order. Then I'll go to the next point of order.
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Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
Chair, respectfully, I don't understand what you're saying.
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Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
I want to make this point clearly and precisely, and hopefully we'll be able to have a respectful understanding of the rules, Chair.
You had made a ruling with respect to the question of privilege.
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Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
You determined at that point that the matter was not in relation to privilege. That is the ruling I think you were speaking of. You made that ruling. That ruling was upheld.
That meant my motion had not been moved. No motion had been moved. It didn't change the fact that I had the floor, and I still have the floor. I don't think you have a basis for ruling that I don't have the floor.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal George Chahal
Mr. Genuis, I'm going to pause you.
We have a point of order from Mr. Angus.
Go ahead.
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NDP
Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON
Thank you.
What's very concerning is this level of intimidation of the chair to stop other MPs from speaking.
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Conservative
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Conservative
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NDP
Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON
—challenges the chair or that he sit quietly and shows some respect for other people to have an opportunity to speak. This has been denied to all of us because of this behaviour. If he's not willing to challenge the chair, I suggest that you assume control of this meeting and allow everyone their role to speak, as we are here to do.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal George Chahal
Thank you, Mr. Angus.
Before I proceed to Mr. Williamson on a point of order, Mr. Genuis, I would remind you that the chair does have the authority to determine the speaking order as stated in the passage.
That decision was made, and the committee upheld that ruling, so we'll now proceed to Mr. Williamson on a point of order.
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Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
Chair, I have a point of order on that point of order.
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Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
Chair, on that point of order, I think you are misunderstanding.
The clerk can share with the committee or with you, if it's helpful. The chair establishes the speaking order. The chair does not, once a member has the floor already, decide in the middle of that member's speech that the chair doesn't like what that member is saying and that therefore he has lost the floor. That's not what establishing a speaking order means.
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Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
No, but we're going to uphold the rules of this committee, Chair.
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Conservative
Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB
You do not have the right to show complete disregard for the rules.
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Liberal
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