Natural Resources Committee on Oct. 30th, 2023

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Now you're into debate, Mr. Genuis.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

No, I'm not, actually—

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

What I will say on your question is that the individual on the point of order has to be able to speak so that we can understand what their point of order is.

Thank you.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Yes. That's what I was trying to do before you interrupted, Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Thank you.

We're going to—

[Shannon Stubbs, Conservative, Lakeland, AB]

I have a point of order, Chair.

He's trying to do that, and you're cutting him off just like you cut me off.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Yes.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

We have a point of order from Mr. Angus.

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

Thank you, Chair.

I just want to say that—

[Shannon Stubbs, Conservative, Lakeland, AB]

I don't think the Liberal staffer has to be over here talking to our clerk.

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

—this constant attempt to undermine and intimidate is not becoming—

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

I have a point of order.

[Shannon Stubbs, Conservative, Lakeland, AB]

The Liberal staffer doesn't need to be over here talking to the clerk to help you manage things, Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Mr. Angus, can you hold on. We have a point of order by Mr. Genuis.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Thank you, Chair.

I was suggesting that you provide a ruling. Actually, it's not a suggestion. It's a point of order. I would like you to provide a ruling on whether points of order can be interrupted by other points of order.

I don't doubt it was frustrating to Mr. Angus with what just happened. I would prefer that we have a system in which he could his finish point of order, Mrs. Stubbs could finish her point of order, Ms. Dabrusin could finish her point of order, and then it's all equal regardless of party or gender—

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

They just interrupted me and said that they cannot be—

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

You need to rule on this matter.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Mr. Genuis, I have made a ruling. I'm going to hear one point of order at a time, and if you're interrupting, we can't hear the point of order, but we're not going to engage in debates by a point of order, okay?

Now—

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Chair, can I just clarify your ruling?

[Shannon Stubbs, Conservative, Lakeland, AB]

I have a point of order, Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Mr. Angus had the floor on a point of order—

[Shannon Stubbs, Conservative, Lakeland, AB]

I had a point of order on his point of order. You went to me, and then you cut me off.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

You're in debate, Ms. Stubbs. You're in debate.

[Shannon Stubbs, Conservative, Lakeland, AB]

No, I'm literally saying that I have a point of order.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

On a point of order, Mr. Angus.