Natural Resources Committee on Oct. 30th, 2023

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Go ahead, Mr. Lake.

[Mike Lake, Conservative, Edmonton—Wetaskiwin, AB]

I want to get clarity around the rules of this particular committee, who the voting member is for the NDP and what the rule is around who the voting member is.

Is it when someone is in the room and a regular member of the committee that they're automatically the voting member?

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

I'm the voting member down here.

[Mike Lake, Conservative, Edmonton—Wetaskiwin, AB]

There's video of the entire room, and we can see on the video who's in the room or not.

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

I'm right here.

I'll be on the video. I'm the voting member.

[Mike Lake, Conservative, Edmonton—Wetaskiwin, AB]

I would make the argument that on—

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

I'm the voting member.

[An hon. member]

You don't have the floor. Turn off your mic.

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

Can we get to the vote?

[Mike Lake, Conservative, Edmonton—Wetaskiwin, AB]

—multiple votes, Mr. Angus was in the room while Ms. Kwan was voting. I just want clarity on what the rules are for who the voting member of the NDP is when both members are in the room.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Mr. Lake, thank you for your point of order. The clerk has previously provided that information to committee members.

We'll now move to BQ-29.

[Mike Lake, Conservative, Edmonton—Wetaskiwin, AB]

Excuse me. I'm asking a question.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

This is not for debate.

We'll move to BQ-29.

The amendment seeks to make a substantive modification by adding new elements to the preamble, and no amendment has been adopted to warrant the addition of these new elements. I declare the amendment inadmissible.

[Jeremy Patzer, Conservative, Cypress Hills—Grasslands, SK]

I challenge you.

(Ruling of the chair sustained: yeas 7; nays 4)

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

We'll now move to BQ-30. I declare the amendment inadmissible for the same reasons provided previously.

[Jeremy Patzer, Conservative, Cypress Hills—Grasslands, SK]

I have a point of order. It's for what? I'm sorry.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

The amendment seeks to make a substantive modification by adding new elements to the preamble. Since no amendment has been adopted to warrant the addition of the new elements, I declare the amendment inadmissible.

[Jeremy Patzer, Conservative, Cypress Hills—Grasslands, SK]

We challenge the chair.

(Ruling of the chair sustained: yeas 6; nays 5)

[Mike Lake, Conservative, Edmonton—Wetaskiwin, AB]

On a point of order, Mr. Chair, I would suggest that any vote cast by Ms. Kwan while Mr. Angus was in the room should not be counted.

I would say that if the NDP is insistent on co-operating with you, as the chair, and the Liberals to ram this legislation through, they should at least follow the rules that the committee has passed and agreed to abide by.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Shall CPC-91 carry?

[An hon. member]

I request a recorded vote.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

(Amendment negatived: nays 7; yeas 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

We move to CPC-92.

CPC-92 is inadmissible as the amendment seeks to make a substantial modification by adding new elements to the preamble. Since no amendment has been adopted to warrant the addition of these new elements, I declare the amendment inadmissible.

[Jeremy Patzer, Conservative, Cypress Hills—Grasslands, SK]

I challenge the chair.

(Ruling of the chair sustained: yeas 7; nays 4)

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

We are on CPC-93, which is inadmissible.

We will move to LIB-13.

If LIB-13 is adopted, BQ-31 cannot be moved due to a line conflict.