Evidence of meeting #80 for Natural Resources in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was point.
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Conservative
Shannon Stubbs Conservative Lakeland, AB
It's important. That's an important common-sense [Inaudible—Editor].
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Conservative
Jeremy Patzer Conservative Cypress Hills—Grasslands, SK
Yes. It's a point of privilege for members, to be honest, and it's a common-sense one at that.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal George Chahal
Thank you for your point of order. We'll look into what you've referenced in more detail. I'll report back once I have further information on what you've referenced—
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Conservative
Shannon Stubbs Conservative Lakeland, AB
Chair, to that point of order, it just seems extremely germane—like, this very second—to the confidence and credibility and clarity of what we're doing at this committee. I'm not quite certain how we can possibly proceed if we have a potential discrepancy here on a basic rule.
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Conservative
Shannon Stubbs Conservative Lakeland, AB
But it's the rules that govern this committee that are important in terms of what we're doing right now.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal George Chahal
Well, we made a ruling earlier from the information and my understanding of it. Mr. Patzer has provided some information on the standing order—
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Conservative
Shannon Stubbs Conservative Lakeland, AB
He read the standing order. It's not “some information” on it. He read it.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal George Chahal
We will get further clarity. If there is more clarity provided, we will come back and provide that to you.
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Conservative
Shannon Stubbs Conservative Lakeland, AB
It really seems to me that for confidence in these proceedings, we'd better get this clarity right now. Then we can proceed.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal George Chahal
That's not a point of order. If there's another point of order...but that's what I have provided right now.
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Conservative
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal George Chahal
I'm asking the clerk to look into the matter. As soon as I get some information back, I will advise the committee accordingly.
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Conservative
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Conservative
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Conservative
Arnold Viersen Conservative Peace River—Westlock, AB
I would just like to thank my colleague for pointing out that this is the first time that I have ever been denied being added to the speaking order while not being subbed in. I totally thought that I would be on the speaking list.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal George Chahal
You are in debate.
You actually are on the speaking list, Mr. Viersen.
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Conservative
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Conservative
Arnold Viersen Conservative Peace River—Westlock, AB
I tried to get on the speaking list before I was subbed in. I know that for folks back home, Bill C-69 is something they're very passionate about. Hence, I'm here to speak to it. The fact that I was unable to get on there does seem to be limiting to my privileges as a member of Parliament.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal George Chahal
Yes, we are getting into debate.
You are on the speaking list. You will have your opportunity on the subamendment.
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Conservative
Shannon Stubbs Conservative Lakeland, AB
I have a point of order, Mr. Chair, on this point of order.
What we are talking about is the ability of members of Parliament here to do their democratic duty on behalf of their constituents and all Canadians. My colleague read the standing order. He did not give some information about it. He read the standing order. The Standing Orders are the rules that govern the House of Commons and the committee. They are the foundation of the democratic exercise here of elected representatives representing the common sense of the common people who sent us here to do these jobs.
It seems to me that we need to get clarity on this right now. Otherwise, the entire in-real-time proceedings of this committee and our ability to do our jobs on behalf of the people who sent us here may be compromised. I would suggest that, for confidence in these proceedings and every minute after that, we get this clarity first and then proceed.
