Natural Resources Committee on Oct. 30th, 2023

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

You would have order if you respected the rules.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

—a ruling. I will ask you to turn off your microphone.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

No, Chair. You're being a dictator.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

I am asking the proceedings and verification officer to keep mikes off until I have made a ruling and acknowledged a member to speak.

I will be very clear. All members have the right to speak when it's their turn.

I have made a ruling on the speaking order. The speaking order is that Mr. Angus has the floor.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

I have a point of order, Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

If committee members would like to challenge that ruling, that ruling can be challenged. The committee can, at that point, proceed to a vote.

Mr. Genuis, I will not be accepting any points of order on rulings that have been made—

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Chair, I move a motion of privilege.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Mr. Genuis, you do not have the floor. Mr. Angus has the floor.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

On a point of order, Chair, the rules provide that I can raise a question of privilege.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Mr. Genuis, I would ask you....

I will ask colleagues to pause for a moment, please.

We will proceed with Mr. Angus. A ruling has been made by this committee—

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

On a point of order, Chair, I do not need the floor to raise a question of privilege. I can raise it on a point of order.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

We have made a ruling, and a previous ruling has been made.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

I have a point of order. I'd like to raise a question of privilege.

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

He said he was bringing forth a motion. He doesn't have the floor. Now he keeps changing—

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

It's a question of privilege.

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

He's claiming to have a motion when I have the floor.

Chair, if you will allow me to continue, because I am here to do my job as a parliamentarian to speak on Bill C-50 and Bill C-49 and the need for us to respond to the—

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

I have a point of order, Chair.

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

—vote that was done by all members of Parliament to have our committee undertake this work.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Mr. Angus—

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

I look forward to taking that on.

Mr. Genuis, whenever he gets the floor—

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

I have a point of order.

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

—can do whatever he does, but he doesn't have a point of order. He said he was introducing a motion.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

It's a motion of privilege.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Mr. Angus has the floor.

Colleagues, I have recognized him. If colleagues would like to challenge the ruling of the chair—

[Ted Falk, Conservative, Provencher, MB]

Mr. Chair, you recognized me before as having a point of order, and you never acknowledged my opportunity to raise my point of order.

It seems as though when Mr. Angus decides to contribute to this conversation or discussion, he is immediately recognized, and he is given the courtesy and the privilege to speak, but—