Evidence of meeting #80 for Natural Resources in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was point.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Miriam Burke  Committee Clerk
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Patrick Williams
Marc-Olivier Girard  Committee Clerk
Thomas Bigelow  Committee Clerk

6 p.m.

Conservative

Ted Falk Conservative Provencher, MB

No, I'm not actually quite finished.

6 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal George Chahal

We are engaging in debate. I recognize what you've stated on the point of order, Mr. Falk.

The ability for members to make a point of order and to be heard one at a time is something I've tried to do, but all members have a right to participate, so I would thank you for your point of order. I would remind colleagues to allow members to participate.

I'll ask you to finish your point of order and not engage in debate, but speak specifically to the point of order so we can move on to the next point of order.

6 p.m.

Conservative

Ted Falk Conservative Provencher, MB

Thank you. I was going to remind you that you didn't interrupt Mr. Kelloway or Mr. Angus when they were making their points of order, but you just interrupted me. I just want to point that out. I want the audience to be able to observe that, the behaviour of the chair.

My point of order is this. Mr. Genuis in his point of order asked Ms. Lapointe to clarify exactly what the unparliamentary language that she referred to Mr. Genuis as using was so he could address that. I'm sure, if there was legitimate unparliamentary language being used, that Mr. Genuis would love the opportunity to apologize, if that really is the case.

6 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal George Chahal

Mr. Falk, thank you for your point of order.

The chair previously ruled on unparliamentary language that may have occurred during this committee and previous committees. I've reminded members of our duties as members.

Mr. Falk, you raised an important point on a previous interruption that was made when Mr. Kelloway had the floor and was partway through his point of order, where disorder occurred in this committee and when I, as the chair, had to suspend.

6 p.m.

An hon. member

Are you sure this isn't debate?

6 p.m.

Conservative

Ted Falk Conservative Provencher, MB

Mr. Chair, you—

6 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal George Chahal

Once again, colleagues, we are not going to use a point of order to engage in debate.

As the chair—I would ask you respectfully, sir—I had to suspend the meeting previously because a member was interrupted and a number of members conducted in disorder, which led me to suspend this meeting. As mentioned earlier, I will not hesitate at any point....

As committee members, it's our duty to respect each other, to work together, to follow parliamentary rules that are in place, which I previously stated, to ensure a good working environment for everybody who supports us at this committee. Whether it's our clerks, our analysts, the health and safety of our interpreters, we must take that very seriously.

We are going to move to Mr. Sorbara on the next point of order.

6 p.m.

Conservative

Ted Falk Conservative Provencher, MB

Mr. Chair, to finish my point of order—

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal George Chahal

Mr. Falk, you've addressed your point of order.

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Conservative

Ted Falk Conservative Provencher, MB

But I wasn't finished.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal George Chahal

There's another point of order.

I'm going to move forward. I thank you for raising a point of order, sir.

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Conservative

Ted Falk Conservative Provencher, MB

You let Mr. Kelloway finish his complete thought before you interrupted.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal George Chahal

As chair, I've ruled on your point of order.

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Conservative

Ted Falk Conservative Provencher, MB

I wasn't even finished.

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NDP

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

I think there's a challenge to the chair.

Do I hear a challenge to the chair?

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal George Chahal

I'm moving to Mr. Sorbara on his point of order.

Mr. Sorbara, can you wait one moment, please?

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NDP

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

He just challenged the chair.

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An hon. member

You have to give every member the chance—

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Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Let him finish his point of order.

6 p.m.

Liberal

Francesco Sorbara Liberal Vaughan—Woodbridge, ON

Mr. Falk, kindly finish your point of order and then I'll go just after you.

6 p.m.

Conservative

Ted Falk Conservative Provencher, MB

That sounds like a very common-sense solution.

6 p.m.

Liberal

Francesco Sorbara Liberal Vaughan—Woodbridge, ON

It's a very gentlemanly thing to do.

6 p.m.

An hon. member

It's common sense and gentlemanly.

6 p.m.

An hon. member

United for our common well-being.

6 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal George Chahal

Thank you, Mr. Sorbara, for offering that, but, Mr. Sorbara, decisions are made. I'm going to move to you on the point of order.