Evidence of meeting #80 for Natural Resources in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was point.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Miriam Burke  Committee Clerk
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Patrick Williams
Marc-Olivier Girard  Committee Clerk
Thomas Bigelow  Committee Clerk

6:15 p.m.

Conservative

Jeremy Patzer Conservative Cypress Hills—Grasslands, SK

Let's reflect on this.

Mr. Genuis had the floor because he would not have been able to move his point of privilege, the motion he moved, if he did not have it. As we know, you cannot move motions if you do not have the floor.

6:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal George Chahal

We have a point of order from Ms. Dabrusin.

6:15 p.m.

Liberal

Julie Dabrusin Liberal Toronto—Danforth, ON

This has already been decided. There was a motion to challenge the chair. We voted on that, and we sustained the chair's ruling. Now my understanding is that Mr. Angus has the floor.

I will say, we have important legislation in front of us. It is important to workers across our country, and they want to see us working on it, rather than listening to people who are not accepting the vote and the ruling from this committee.

6:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal George Chahal

Thank you, Ms. Dabrusin.

We have a point of order from.... Colleagues, once again, everybody can say, “point of order”, but I can only hear one point of order at a time. I'm trying to....

Mr. Angus has the floor, and we've had several points of order—

6:15 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

I have a point of order, Chair. He does not have the floor.

6:15 p.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

Yes, I do.

If you want to challenge the chair, you can be quiet and show some respect.

6:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal George Chahal

I can only hear one point of order at a time.

I am speaking to the committee. If we all could speak one at a time, you would be recognized in that manner.

As before, Mr. Angus has the floor.

6:15 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

No. I have a point of order, Chair.

6:15 p.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

Challenge the chair.

6:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal George Chahal

Mr. Genuis, a decision was made. We are going to Mr. Angus.

6:15 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Chair, on a point of order, you gave me the floor, and I tried to move a question of privilege. Retrospectively, you ruled that I couldn't move the question of privilege, but you gave me the floor before I did that.

6:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal George Chahal

Mr. Genuis, a ruling was made and—

6:15 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Chair, you have to respect the rules of the committee. You broke the law in the last election, and now you're showing flagrant disregard for the rules in this committee.

6:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal George Chahal

Thank you, Mr. Genuis.

6:15 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

You should have respect for the law, Chair, and respect for the rules of the committee.

6:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal George Chahal

Order.

6:15 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

That was a choice you made.

6:15 p.m.

Liberal

Francesco Sorbara Liberal Vaughan—Woodbridge, ON

Garnett, stop it.

6:15 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Show some respect for the rules.

6:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal George Chahal

Mr. Genuis.

Order.

6:15 p.m.

Liberal

Francesco Sorbara Liberal Vaughan—Woodbridge, ON

Garnett, you are being so out of line as an MP and as a colleague, and you're embarrassing all MPs this evening.

6:15 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

There are rules, and I will stand on the rules.

Francesco, the rules are the rules, and the chair is showing flagrant disregard for the rules.

6:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal George Chahal

We're going to suspend.

6:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal George Chahal

We are back. We will suspend this evening until we get further resources.

Thank you.

[The meeting was suspended at 6:28 p.m., Wednesday, November 1]

[The meeting resumed at 11:05 a.m., Monday, November 6]

6:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal George Chahal

I call this meeting to order.

Welcome back to meeting number 80 of the House of Commons Standing Committee on Natural Resources.

Today, we are meeting in public to discuss committee business. In accordance with our routine motion, I am informing the committee that all remote participants have completed the required connection tests in advance of this meeting.

When we suspended on Wednesday evening, Mr. Angus had the floor—