Natural Resources Committee on Oct. 30th, 2023

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Mr. Chair, can I be allowed—

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Mr. Genuis, I am not going to debate with you.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Can I be allowed to finish the point of order that I was raising before I was interrupted by Mr. Angus?

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Mr. Genuis, I will ask you to cede the floor.

[Shannon Stubbs, Conservative, Lakeland, AB]

Mr. Chair, out of respect for the interpreters, you should let Mr. Genuis finish his comments.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Ms. Stubbs, the chair has the floor. Allow me to finish, please.

We previously ruled as a committee on the ruling of privilege. The committee ruled.

If you would like to challenge the chair on the speaking order, you can do so. I will not, at this point, be taking any more points of order on this. If you want to challenge the chair on the speaking order, I would ask you to do so, and we can proceed with a vote on challenging the chair. Then it would be the committee's will to determine whether it wants to uphold that ruling or not.

I will not have any more points of order on the issue.

I will go to Mr. Angus so that he can get to his debate on the subamendment.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Mr. Chair, on that matter, thank you—

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Mr. Genuis, this is not for debate. You can challenge the chair or Mr. Angus gets the floor. If you'd like to challenge the chair, I'll give you that opportunity.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Thank you for the opportunity.

I would like to move that the committee report to the House that the chair abused his powers when he breached the privileges of the member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan—

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Mr. Genuis, you do not have the floor, and I would ask you to—

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

—by taking the floor away from him on the debate on the programming motion on Bill C-50 and Bill C-49.

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

Mr. Chair, could you cut the microphone?

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

We will suspend.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

I call the meeting back to order.

Thank you, committee members.

I have heard arguments made on who has the floor. My ruling is that Mr. Angus has the floor.

We will proceed with Mr. Angus. We will not allow any more points of order—

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Point of order, Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

—on any rulings that have been made today.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

Point of order, Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Yes, Mr. Genuis. Do you have a different point of order?

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

I have moved a question of privilege in relation to the violation of privilege by the chair.

[Charlie Angus, NDP, Timmins—James Bay, ON]

You don't have the floor to do that.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Mr. Genuis, you do not have the floor. Mr. Angus has been recognized as the individual with the floor.

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

How can I raise a question of privilege when the nature of the violation of the privilege is to not allow me to speak?

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Mr. Genuis—

[Garnett Genuis, Conservative, Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB]

You're just making things up, Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, George Chahal]

Mr. Genuis, I have made—