Evidence of meeting #80 for Natural Resources in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was point.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal George Chahal
Can you pause, Ms. Dabrusin?
Ms. Stubbs, I want to hear the point of order from Ms. Dabrusin. Then, on that point of order, we will come back to you.
Ms. Dabrusin, my apologies. Please go ahead.
Liberal
Julie Dabrusin Liberal Toronto—Danforth, ON
I believe that you have made a ruling that Mr. Angus has the floor on the subamendment to a very standard scheduling motion. I would ask that if the Conservatives continue to have a problem with that, they challenge the chair on that ruling, or else we go ahead and do the business that workers across this country expect us to be doing for them.
Liberal
Conservative
Shannon Stubbs Conservative Lakeland, AB
Thank you, Chair.
We all agree about the importance of debating this legislation, especially considering both of its significant impacts. Of course, Julie would know that on Friday, October 27, at 2:58 p.m., she texted me, and said, “I'm checking in about Monday and your thoughts on getting started on the bills at RNNR committee. Let me know if you want to talk.”
Of course, that was a follow-up.
Conservative
Shannon Stubbs Conservative Lakeland, AB
It's about this point of order. It's about the issue of scheduling.
As you know, and as you correctly corrected me, and I apologize for that, conversations did happen the week prior that I wasn't supposed to refer to. I apologize for that, and I won't do again now.
I got that text on Friday. I responded with exactly the same argument that we made here and that you all know we have also discussed.
She didn't respond to me. That's fine. She's extremely busy in her role, and that's fine with me.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal George Chahal
I will ask you to be succinct on private conversations you're having, Ms. Stubbs.
Conservative
Liberal
The Chair Liberal George Chahal
I want you to be on the point of order, not on a private conversation you had with another member.
Conservative
Shannon Stubbs Conservative Lakeland, AB
I am on it. It's about the scheduling. It's not about a private conversation. It has nothing to do with a private conversation. It's about scheduling for this committee.
October 30th, 2023 / 12:10 p.m.
Liberal
Conservative
Shannon Stubbs Conservative Lakeland, AB
I know it's very hard for everybody to be totally transparent and say the same thing privately and publicly, or internally and externally. You all know that's a thing I do.
Conservative
Shannon Stubbs Conservative Lakeland, AB
This isn't a private conversation. This is the truth. It was about scheduling at this committee. She has a big job and a lot of responsibilities. It's fine that she didn't respond. That happened on Friday. You guys keep talking about wanting to collaborate. At the very top of the meeting on Monday—
Liberal
Conservative
Shannon Stubbs Conservative Lakeland, AB
—the Liberals walked in with this scheduling motion to dictate the schedule to this committee. Conservatives are saying we want to collaborate. These bills are important.
Conservative
Shannon Stubbs Conservative Lakeland, AB
The procedural issue is on being clear about what has occurred in this committee meeting, which—
Conservative
Conservative
Conservative
Shannon Stubbs Conservative Lakeland, AB
What's happened subsequently is that the NDP-Liberals spent two days trying to shut down, censor and kick out Conservative members of Parliament, who have a right to be here at this committee.
