That's a great question.
The forest sector is really an interconnected sector. Softwood lumber production is a key sort of linchpin in the sector, but it doesn't operate in isolation from the other parts of the sector. When there's a downturn in pulp and paper, that impacts softwood lumber producers who sell their chips to those mills and, conversely, when there's a downturn in softwood lumber, that can affect pulp and paper. All of these things affect the upstream harvesting sector as well.
What's important is that as we're looking at the primary softwood lumber producers, we also look at where their residues are going, where their lumber is going and what the market needs are in those cases. We've seen pulp and paper mill production go down. There have been a number of closures and curtailments in Canada, and that affects the profitability of softwood lumber mills. We need to find other uses for those chips, whether it's in different kinds of wood products, in bioenergy or in different types of bioproducts.
Also, we need to look at the primary production of lumber. As we think about growing the engineered wood product, mass timber and the prefab modular industry, we need to make sure that our primary manufacturing industry is well set up to provide those industries with the inputs they need in the form in which they need them.
These are all places where the government can work with industry in order to move along that path.