All right.
I'm going to switch over to Mr. Geffros.
I have to confess that you startled me, because when we're thinking of forestry, we're thinking generally of framing. It's a realization that we're dealing with other things such as packaging.
You indicated that you want packaging to be excluded from duties and tariffs when we're talking about exports and so forth. Is it something that's called out separately when we export? How is that done right now?