That's a great question. On our side of the business, we're focused on construction using solid wood and those kinds of things.
They vertically integrated in Europe to focus supply away from the pulp mills. What do they do? They do bioenergy. They create pellets that go into the U.K. tariff system for energy. They use them for heat and power in their own facilities, and they also make wood fibre insulation out of it.
Wood fibre insulation is an opportunity that's in front of us right here in Canada. We're working to make sure the CSA standards and those things are available for folks. Now we have to attract people to say, “Hey, that's a good investment” so that we can take that chip supply and use it for that kind of thing.
You can also start to think about some of those other engineered wood products. You can flake the stuff and chip it to make LVL or oriented strand board and those kinds of things, and there are other streams where you can send residuals.