I'll start with carbon management. It can and will be a very large industry in the future. Some studies out there are saying that carbon management can be as big as the oil and gas industry in the future. There's a lot of carbon to deal with. Canada has the opportunity here to actually build projects in Canada, prove the technologies and create jobs while we're doing it, because we have the expertise here to do it. As the gentleman over here was saying, the skill sets of our oil and gas energy industry are the same skill sets we need for decarbonization. We can do it here. We have the geology. We can prove it here.
The world is demanding carbon management. When you talk to Europeans, it's on the tip of their tongue. They're talking about carbon management on a daily basis. Asia is now going the path of carbon management. Japan, Singapore and Korea are leading the way on carbon management in Asia. Worldwide it is a topic. It is an industry that is going to grow over the next decades. Canada can be a leader in this space. We can create high-paying jobs while we're doing it.