I would answer that in two ways because you seem to imply...through your question about the nationalization of a pipeline rather than the private sector. We have that already with TMX. I think there are two directions. Like Mark, I don't speak on behalf of the pipeline industry, the oil and gas industry. I speak on behalf of our members and jobs. These infrastructure investments create jobs, so we are very much aware of what's happening in this industry.
TMX, for example, can be expanded and increased in capacity to send oil down to Burnaby. It could also be expanded to send a new pipeline to Churchill, Manitoba and Hudson Bay and have a new terminal in Hudson Bay, a new oil and/or gas terminal. That's a pipeline the Canadian government already owns.
In terms of a pipeline in the MOU to the west coast, as you very well know, we live in a federation, and in order to get big things built in Canada, you need to have the provinces onside. You need it for regulatory approval. You need social licence. You need to work with the provinces to get these big projects through the approval process. That's why it's critically important to have these MOUs. I also see that different provinces are creating MOUs for more infrastructure projects across their provincial boundaries.
As it relates to a new pipeline to the west coast, I think we have to decarbonize our traditional production of oil from the oil sands. Pathways, now the Oil Sands Alliance, has talked about that, and in order to do that—