It's very good to point that out, Mr. Chair. I'll talk about forestry.
Ms. Payne, you may be aware that a proposal was made to the federal government regarding the tariff crisis. This proposal came from a joint discussion between Daniel Cloutier—who is from your organization and whom you must know—people from the forestry sector, and businesses. Basically, the government was asked to take on a portion of the countervailing duties, anti-dumping duties and customs duties, but especially the countervailing and anti-dumping duties, since that money exists at the border. I think it's over $13 billion right now, and you quite rightly pointed out that no business can survive with margins cut by 45%. I'm still waiting for the government's response.
When we look at the role of Export Development Canada, or EDC—whose representatives were here a while ago—and when we look at EDC's reports for 2022 and 2023, we see that $9.3 billion in all kinds of financial support was granted to the oil sector in 2022. It was more or less the same thing in 2023. That means that there's an enormous amount of fiscal capacity for the people in the energy sector, but absolutely nothing for the forestry sector, which often leaves the impression of a double standard.
I'd like to hear you speak to the critical situation that people in the forestry sector are currently experiencing.