I'll be honest. I don't think there's too much of a difference. We struggle with the same things in Australia around permitting, environmental issues and indigenous communities. It all means that mining projects are taking longer and longer to get permitted and up and running.
When you ask who does it better, I don't think anyone is doing it better at this stage. Both countries need to improve, and we need to improve to get those permitting timelines as short as we possibly can, as I said. My morals are very much around our having to do it in a very environmentally friendly manner and making sure we bring the community along with us. If you can demonstrate you're doing that, you should get to the top of the pile and make sure that these things happen quickly.
