I wouldn't want people reading or listening to this exchange to get the impression that it's not important to hear the witnesses or that what they say isn't taken into consideration, on the contrary.
I would like to make a second point. With regard to the minister's appearance, I am perfectly aware that ministers have fairly busy schedules, as we all do. An accommodation must be made. I agree with the colleagues who answered your question, Mr. Harvey: it isn't unusual for a minister to appear more often at certain times. We've handled two or three files one after the other. There were the parliamentary appropriations that had to be approved, the Court Challenges study, and now we're working to prepare the plan. If, at some point, some sort of bill is referred to us, concerning Air Canada, for example, and the subject is discussed here, the minister could be summoned at that time as well—it might not be that minister in particular. This is common practice. It's just that the present period is very busy; that's all.