He said very clearly, Mr. Chair, that...if he wants a motion to not have the minister come, that would go against the motion--completely against the motion. The motion is for her to come. If he doesn't want her to come, he just has to vote against it. You cannot have a motion going against a motion. You cannot go contrary to the motion.
We have to deal with the motion, and if you don't like the motion you vote against the motion.