Evidence of meeting #10 for Official Languages in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was million.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Judith LaRocque  Deputy Minister, Department of Canadian Heritage
Tom Scrimger  Assistant Deputy Minister, Planning and Corporate Affairs, Department of Canadian Heritage
Jérôme Moisan  Senior Director, Official Languages Secretariat, Department of Canadian Heritage
Hubert Lussier  Director General, Official Languages Support Programs, Department of Canadian Heritage

9 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Steven Blaney

Good morning, and welcome to the 10th meeting of the Standing Committee on Official Languages.

This morning, for the first hour of our meeting, it is our pleasure to have the honourable James Moore, Minister of Canadian Heritage and Official Languages, with us. With him is Ms. Judith LaRocque, Deputy Minister, and Mr. Hubert Lussier, who often appears before us. He is the Director General of the Official Languages Support Programs. Mr. Robinson, the Director General of the 2010 Olympic and Paralympic Winter Games Federal Secretariat, is also with us.

Welcome everyone.

Without any further ado, I'd like to give the minister the floor.

9 a.m.

Port Moody—Westwood—Port Coquitlam B.C.

Conservative

James Moore ConservativeMinister of Canadian Heritage and Official Languages

Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.

Colleagues, I am pleased to be here to talk to you about the activities coming up in the next few months in the official languages portfolio and to lay the foundations of a very productive working relationship. Yesterday, I testified before the Standing Senate Committee on Official Languages. Today, I am with you, and I hope that together we will be able to examine the issues that are of importance to us.

First of all, I want to tell you how honoured I was that the Prime Minister entrusted the official languages portfolio to me, first as Secretary of State and then as Minister. It is a portfolio of the utmost importance to me.

French had an important place in my own family. Thirty years ago, my parents enrolled my two sisters and me in a French immersion school starting in kindergarten. Today, I am more grateful to them than ever. I am very proud to be one of the growing number of Canadians who speak French. There are 9.6 million francophones and francophiles in the country.

My ability to speak French and English is a true asset for me. I'm able to do my best to understand my constituents and Canadians, my responsibilities, and the hopes and aspirations, I hope, of Canadians in anglophone and francophone communities throughout the country.

Since last July, I have met with a number of official-language communities, in all parts of Canada, including the members of the organizing committee for the next World Acadian Congress. To date, we have invested over $4 million in this congress.

I also took part in round table discussions bringing together community leaders in Vancouver, Moncton and Edmonton. Last August, I attended the opening of the Jeux de la francophonie canadienne in Edmonton. I also attended Francoforce, first in Quebec City, and then in Dieppe. There I discovered the next generation of francophones, who are talented, daring, and proud of their roots. I also had the opportunity to talk with young people who are learning their second official language, and with others who are pursuing their university studies in French in a minority official language community.

You know, I consider the needs of official language communities in all my decisions. For example, when I created the Canada Media Fund, I ensured that there was an envelope set aside for these communities. For 2009-2010, the communities will retain the 10-million-dollar envelope set aside for them by the Canadian Television Fund.

On a smaller scale, in early March, I had the opportunity to announce the allocation of funding to the 20th Festival du Bois de Maillardville. This community, which I am very well acquainted with, is celebrating its centennial. It is the oldest francophone community west of the Rockies.

Obviously, this is not the only important anniversary in the country in 2009.

As you know, the Official Languages Act turns 40 this year. This anniversary is a real milestone, as the Official Languages Act was an excellent initiative for asserting Canadians' rights and opening up new opportunities to them. The recognition of our two official languages and our history has always been a part of my life and my country. Our linguistic duality is a treasure, and we want to take every advantage of this opportunity to make Canadians more aware of the benefits of having two world-class languages in our country.

The year 2009 will be crucial for those working in the area of official languages. The commitments made by our government last June when the Roadmap to Canada's Linguistic Duality was announced are continuing to take tangible form.

A great deal of work has gone into developing the Roadmap. We took the opinions of our tremendous number of stakeholders into account. We drew inspiration from the committee work and reports from the Commissioner of Official Languages. We also considered the recommendations in Bernard Lord's report, as well as the findings of the Sommet des communautés francophones et acadiennes.

The Roadmap is a document of great scope and tremendous significance. It defines the Government of Canada's overall approach in the area of official languages while also presenting our objectives and strategies.

I have said this often, and I will repeat it today: our government is determined to keep its commitment and deliver to Canadians all the initiatives announced in the Roadmap.

Thirteen departments and federal agencies have contributed a great deal of work since the beginning. And I am happy to add that another department—Indian and Northern Affairs Canada—has joined the group to meet the needs of communities in the territories. So, that makes 14 departments now participating in the implementation of the Roadmap.

Our investment is unprecedented: $1.1 billion over five years. For 2008-2009, we plan to pay out over $180 million in addition to the $15 million set aside in the 2007 budget for official language community activities.

As a matter of fact, the Roadmap funding announcements have started in sectors that we consider to be priorities: health, justice, immigration, and economic development, as well as arts and culture. I assure you that the implementation work is proceeding very smoothly.

The economic action plan presented in budget 2009, recently passed by the House and Senate, clearly demonstrates our government's commitment to arts, culture, and heritage. The plan sets aside an unprecedented $540 million to provide support and sound economic return on our investment.

Culture is also an important new component of the Roadmap. Four days ago, as part of the Rendez-vous de la Francophonie in Vancouver, I had the opportunity to announce the implementation of the Cultural Development Fund.

Thanks to this fund, we are responding to some of the requests expressed by the communities.

This fund will benefit from a 14-million-dollar budget over four years. It will support and strengthen the arts, culture, and heritage in minority anglophone and francophone communities. It will foster an enhanced sense of identity and belonging within these communities. And it will enable Canadians everywhere to become better acquainted with the diversity and vitality of the cultural scene in these communities, from Whitehorse to Moncton, by way of Saint-Boniface and Lennoxville.

I recently had the pleasure of announcing the National Translation Program for Book Publishing. Starting April 1, our government will invest $5 million over four years to help Canadian publishers translate literary works by Canadian authors into French and English. With this program, we want to give the greatest possible number of Canadians access to our country's immense cultural and literary wealth.

In the health sector, I want to point out that yesterday, Colin Carrie, Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Health, announced over $4 million in additional support for the Consortium national de formation en santé. This funding will assist francophone students in pursuing post-secondary studies in this field.

I also wanted to discuss education since it is a major component of the Roadmap. The government has been working on education with its partners for a long time. In fact, for some 40 years now, the Government of Canada has offered support to the provinces and the territories with a view to helping them meet their responsibilities in matters of minority-language instruction.

Investments in education for the last full year rose to $288 million. These funds go to education in the minority official language and second-language instruction.

The services and education agreements between our government and the 13 provinces and territories must be renewed this year. This will enable us to continue working together while also fulfilling our commitment to ensure that the Roadmap is implemented taking the special characteristics of each region into account.

The education agreements are certainly one of the main means of supporting education in the minority official language and second-language learning at the primary, secondary, and post-secondary levels.

It is important for Canadians to have the opportunity to improve their proficiency in French and English throughout their education, from primary school through the post-secondary level.

My mother was a French teacher in the 1970s, and today one of my sisters is an immersion teacher in British Columbia. In my opinion, education is a very important thing, and these subsidies are just as important.

This is what we are aiming at in our work with the provincial governments, so that projects for enlarging school community centres benefit our youngest. I am particularly thinking about the Centre communautaire Sainte-Anne in Fredericton. Our government supported its expansion with a total contribution of over $6.6 million.

In addition, Canadian universities are key government representatives when the time comes to talk about post-secondary education for francophones and francophiles alike.

In January, our government gave a one-year extension to the Canada—British Columbia Subsidiary Agreement on Minority-Language Education and second-language instruction at Simon Fraser University. Our government thereby made a commitment to help British Columbia with the costs related to official languages, up to $1.2 million.

Thanks to this agreement, francophones and francophiles in this part of the country do much more than pursue their post-secondary education in French. They stay in the province. They assert their attachment to the French language and francophone culture. And, above all, they continue to contribute in numerous ways to the vitality of their community.

I have every intention of continuing to work with all stakeholders, communities, and the provincial and territorial governments in the interests of Canadians across the country.

We are committed to implementing the Roadmap along with the renewal of the agreement and the establishment of the program to support linguistic rights. We are less than a year away from the 2010 Olympic and Paralympic Winter Games in Vancouver. Since planning the games began, respect and promotion of our two official languages have been priorities for our government and this project.

The study presented by the Commissioner of Official Languages last December clearly shows that the 2010 Games are an opportunity for Canada to showcase its linguistic duality. I assure you that our government and all our partners are working diligently to ensure that the 2010 Games are games for all Canadians, in both official languages.

As you know, my responsibilities also include coordinating government action in official languages. Given the growing number of departments involved, this is an important role. I encourage my fellow ministers to take official languages into account in their departments' activities, at every stage.

I would like to take advantage of our discussion today to assure you that I will continue to support my colleagues and cooperate with them in implementing the Roadmap.

To conclude, I'd like to state that we are going to continue on this path. Our government will continue to support the development of French and English official language minority communities and promote full recognition of the use of French and English in our society. As Minister responsible for Official Languages, I have the good fortune to be able to count on a parliamentary secretary for official languages who is fully committed to this portfolio. As you know, Shelly Glover proudly represents me at various activities. I am happy to be able to count on both her understanding of the official language communities' situations and her desire to promote our linguistic duality.

Today, I would like to call upon your skills to help the government explore courses of action to enable us to encourage more Canadians to become proficient in both official languages and to use them on a regular basis. I hope to work effectively with you and all our partners, in the government and outside the government, so that Canada's linguistic duality continues to benefit all Canadians.

Thank you for your time and attention. I am ready to answer your questions.

9:15 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Steven Blaney

Thank you, Mr. Moore.

We will begin with Mr. Jean-Claude D'Amours.

9:15 a.m.

Liberal

Jean-Claude D'Amours Liberal Madawaska—Restigouche, NB

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I would like to thank the minister for appearing before us this morning to discuss the importance of our official languages.

I would first like to talk about the radio and television services of the CBC/Radio-Canada. Given the precarious state of today's economy, Radio-Canada, like other news services, is experiencing rather difficult times.

As you know, I come from New Brunswick. The people in our rural areas need to be able to access news information. Radio-Canada's radio and television services provide such information to francophones living outside major centres. Rural news information is essential in that it allows francophones outside Quebec to live and work as francophones within Canada.

Announcements are expected shortly that will have a detrimental effect, especially on Radio-Canada's radio and television news services. Today, I would like to know whether you are willing to assure us that the people on the ground who provide us with news information and help to ensure the vitality of Canada's francophone communities outside Quebec will continue to play their part and not be subject to budget cuts. Moreover, I would like to know whether you will provide Radio-Canada with the tools needed to weather the storm. This is a key crown corporation for we francophones living outside Quebec, as well as other Canadians across the country.

What are your views on these two issues?

9:15 a.m.

Conservative

James Moore Conservative Port Moody—Westwood—Port Coquitlam, BC

Radio-Canada is a very important organization for francophone communities outside Quebec. I am in complete agreement with you. The corporation broadcasts information in both official languages from coast to coast to coast, and is also crucial for Quebec culture.

As I already mentioned, I understand the situation you are facing in New Brunswick. I indicated in my opening remarks that Maillardville is the largest francophone municipality west of Manitoba. There are 10,000 francophones living in my community. For them, Radio-Canada is a major source of information broadcast in French, their mother tongue. Without Radio-Canada, they would have no French-language programming. This is a priority for our government. As you know, this year we are investing $1.1 billion, an unprecedented amount, in Radio-Canada. The government provides the corporation with two-thirds of its annual funding, with the remainder made up of advertising revenue. The corporation is facing the same kinds of challenges as those in the private broadcasting sector. I have had a number of meetings with Hubert Lacroix, the President and CEO of CBC/Radio-Canada. In passing, I have full confidence in his leadership abilities and trust that he can offer French- and English-language services across Canada, according to the needs of Canadians.

9:20 a.m.

Liberal

Jean-Claude D'Amours Liberal Madawaska—Restigouche, NB

Mr. Minister, services are already offered across the country. I again refer to the flooding that occurred on Highway 40, in the Montreal area. Everyone was wondering why Montreal sewers could not drain the water. People hear about that all day long, and the news from the Atlantic is completely shut off.

It is easy to say that Canadians across the country can watch Radio-Canada, but can you assure us that the people who represent our rural regions will continue to provide us with local information? Having a national broadcaster and offering information is simply not enough.

9:20 a.m.

Conservative

James Moore Conservative Port Moody—Westwood—Port Coquitlam, BC

I can assure you that our government will continue to make unprecedented investments in Radio-Canada and work with the corporation to help make it through this global economic crisis. We are not involved in their everyday decision-making, but I am convinced that, after having spoken with them, Mr. Lacroix and the corporation's executives will be able to deliver the level of services that all Canadians living in minority situations have come to expect.

9:20 a.m.

Liberal

Jean-Claude D'Amours Liberal Madawaska—Restigouche, NB

Will you provide them with the tools needed to offer those services?

9:20 a.m.

Conservative

James Moore Conservative Port Moody—Westwood—Port Coquitlam, BC

We have already invested $1.1 billion...

9:20 a.m.

Liberal

Jean-Claude D'Amours Liberal Madawaska—Restigouche, NB

But what about the other services that might be needed?

9:20 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Steven Blaney

Thank you, Mr. D'Amours.

Thank you, Mr. Minister.

We will move on to Mr. Nadeau.

9:20 a.m.

Bloc

Richard Nadeau Bloc Gatineau, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Good morning, Mr. Minister, and welcome to your colleagues from Canadian Heritage and the Official Languages Secretariat.

Mr. Minister, I would like to begin with the Language Rights Support Program that is, from what has been said, the watered-down or insipid successor of the former program.

Under this new program, will people who initiated proceedings prior to the cancellation of the Court Challenges Program be entitled to new intervenors?

9:20 a.m.

Conservative

James Moore Conservative Port Moody—Westwood—Port Coquitlam, BC

Are you talking about the new Language Rights Support Program?

9:20 a.m.

Bloc

Richard Nadeau Bloc Gatineau, QC

Yes.

9:20 a.m.

Conservative

James Moore Conservative Port Moody—Westwood—Port Coquitlam, BC

It is being implemented. In fact, we launched a call for tenders yesterday in order to find the organizations responsible for delivering the new program. We have done our homework. Last year, my predecessor, Ms. Verner, announced an agreement to that effect.

9:20 a.m.

Bloc

Richard Nadeau Bloc Gatineau, QC

Mr. Minister, perhaps I did not make myself clear. In order to ensure that the cases underway better meet the needs of the communities that made use of the former program and are now applying under the new one, will the new key witnesses called on by the communities receive funding as was the case in the past?

9:20 a.m.

Conservative

James Moore Conservative Port Moody—Westwood—Port Coquitlam, BC

The Court Challenges Program came to an end in 2006. The existing intervenors will continue to receive funding, but not the new ones.

9:20 a.m.

Bloc

Richard Nadeau Bloc Gatineau, QC

If proceedings launched before 2006 are still underway and require new witnesses, will they be accepted?

9:20 a.m.

Conservative

James Moore Conservative Port Moody—Westwood—Port Coquitlam, BC

We will accept witnesses, but not necessarily the intervenors. The cases will be allowed to proceed.

9:25 a.m.

Bloc

Richard Nadeau Bloc Gatineau, QC

Very well, you will accept the intervenors.

9:25 a.m.

Conservative

James Moore Conservative Port Moody—Westwood—Port Coquitlam, BC

We will continue to support the intervenors, but will not accept any new ones.

9:25 a.m.

Bloc

Richard Nadeau Bloc Gatineau, QC

Very well.

As the new program was being conceived, your predecessor said that she met with stakeholders. You are now the minister responsible for the program. Are the national language rights organizations, whether they be Franco-Canadian or Acadian, in the best position to inform you and guide you in your decision-making?

9:25 a.m.

Conservative

James Moore Conservative Port Moody—Westwood—Port Coquitlam, BC

Yes, they play a very important role. I believe that the Fédération des communautés francophones et acadienne du Canada as well as other stakeholders are supporting me today. During the round tables that I organized across Canada, the issue was identified as a priority, as you well know. This is very important for the organizations on the ground. We are continuing to dialogue with those people. We have launched our call for tenders. At each step of the way, we will consult on the best way to offer the new program.

9:25 a.m.

Bloc

Richard Nadeau Bloc Gatineau, QC

Are you saying that, in the case of the Fédération des communautés francophones et acadienne, for example, you are making amends by responding to their requests for a meeting with you?

9:25 a.m.

Conservative

James Moore Conservative Port Moody—Westwood—Port Coquitlam, BC

We have already had a meeting and I am sure that we will have another one very shortly.