Evidence of meeting #33 for Official Languages in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was bilingual.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Donald Wright  Chairman of the Board , VIA Rail Canada Inc.
Paul Côté  President and Chief Executive Officer, VIA Rail Canada Inc.
Christena Keon Sirsly  Chief Strategy Officer and Official Languages Champion, VIA Rail Canada Inc.

9:35 a.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, VIA Rail Canada Inc.

Paul Côté

The next day and the following days, as soon as things became clear, that the complaint and feedback was received, we issued both an internal and an external memo. Afterwards, we sent out more specific information to staff to remind them of their obligations with respect to official languages.

9:35 a.m.

Bloc

Robert Vincent Bloc Shefford, QC

After you had sent out this memo, why is it that you sent out letters of apology in English only?

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President and Chief Executive Officer, VIA Rail Canada Inc.

Paul Côté

An apology has to do with the choice of official language people mark down. For instance, when members of our VIA Preference program register, they may indicate English instead of French. If so, correspondence with them is in that language.

The same type of thing happened to me with—

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Bloc

Robert Vincent Bloc Shefford, QC

Do you mean to say by that that all passengers on board train number 46 on August 16 were registered in English?

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President and Chief Executive Officer, VIA Rail Canada Inc.

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Bloc

Robert Vincent Bloc Shefford, QC

That is what you're telling me. If the letter sent to passengers was strictly in English, when its purpose was to apologize for having spoken to them strictly in English—

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President and Chief Executive Officer, VIA Rail Canada Inc.

Paul Côté

You are right to raise the point. I thought you were asking the question in terms of policy. That was an error in the system: the letter went out in English only and it was sent out as such.

9:35 a.m.

Bloc

Robert Vincent Bloc Shefford, QC

A memo had been sent out a few days earlier. Did someone ignore it? What happened? Given the scandal it provoked, the person who sent out the apology should have been more vigilant.

9:40 a.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, VIA Rail Canada Inc.

Paul Côté

You are right.

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Bloc

Robert Vincent Bloc Shefford, QC

Why did this happen?

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President and Chief Executive Officer, VIA Rail Canada Inc.

Paul Côté

I do not know, I cannot explain it.

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Bloc

Robert Vincent Bloc Shefford, QC

Did you carry out an investigation on this?

9:40 a.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, VIA Rail Canada Inc.

Paul Côté

We asked the person who carried out the investigation what had happened. The answer was that it was up to them to send out a letter, but that they had completely forgotten to check the choice of language.

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Bloc

Robert Vincent Bloc Shefford, QC

Is this person bilingual?

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President and Chief Executive Officer, VIA Rail Canada Inc.

Paul Côté

Yes, absolutely.

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Bloc

Robert Vincent Bloc Shefford, QC

And this person forgot.

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President and Chief Executive Officer, VIA Rail Canada Inc.

Paul Côté

That's correct. Mr. Vincent, human errors occur, and it's unfortunate.

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Bloc

Robert Vincent Bloc Shefford, QC

I understand, Mr. Côté, but it would seem to me that given what happened on August 16—

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President and Chief Executive Officer, VIA Rail Canada Inc.

Paul Côté

You are right.

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Bloc

Robert Vincent Bloc Shefford, QC

—and that people had been warned through a memo, that there should be another mistake—

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Chief Strategy Officer and Official Languages Champion, VIA Rail Canada Inc.

Christena Keon Sirsly

The apology was sent practically at the same time as the statement—

9:40 a.m.

Bloc

Robert Vincent Bloc Shefford, QC

What was the date on the apology letter?

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Chief Strategy Officer and Official Languages Champion, VIA Rail Canada Inc.

Christena Keon Sirsly

The day after the incident.

There is one other thing. Our reservation data system had a browser problem. If an individual makes a reservation and uses an English-language browser, our system classifies the person as an anglophone. That is a common problem it does not only occur at VIA. In fact, there was a recent article in the papers about this type of incident.

Since the incident, we have asked people to specify a language, so we may be sure to communicate with them in that language.

9:40 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Steven Blaney

Thank you, Mr. Vincent.

We'll now go back to Ms. Glover: who had asked a question of our champion.

9:40 a.m.

Conservative

Shelly Glover Conservative Saint Boniface, MB

I have a number of questions to ask, but I'll start with the complaint, Ms. Sirsly.